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Need an Air Pump with Pleco?

Topic: I have a fish aquarium with a bunch of smaller fish and a catfish. Does my Pleco need an air pump or air supply? Should I have a “bubbler” or aerator thing setup? I want my fish tank to do good. My fish died in the past and I want to do it right this time.


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Posted by Megan K: Your aquarium doesn’t necessarily need an air pump (aka bubbler) but it can really add a lot of benefits. What I advise people to do is to buy an air pump and use a sponge filter at the end of the air line. They are SUPER effective and add a lot of filtration to your water. So with the air pump your adding oxygen to the water from the air bubbles floating to the surface and your also adding another filter with the sponge filter connected to it. Sponge filters use the air power that runs through it to filter water through the sponge pad. Here is what they look like

Active Aqua Air Pump, 2 Outlets, 3W, 7.8 L/min
List Price: $15.66
Price: $15.66
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  • I always put an air pump in my aquarium setups to be safe. It helps add oxygen to the tank and if the filter fails and breaks down.. the air really helps save the fish (until I notice the filter has stopped working at least).
  • I need some info about air pumps. My daughter has a tank thar I think is a 30 gal. I was wanting to get her an air pump since she doesn’t have one. What size does she need? Also she’s going to need a heater in the next couple months. Whats a good cheap heater for a 30 gal?
  • Usually on the package it will indicate the size of tanks that the air pumps are made for. As for which brand I can’t help you there I bought one that I used for about a week and then it went into storage. Just make sure that if you buy the air tubing separate that it is the right size. Some have tiny holes that won’t be big enough to place over the air pumps air release hole thingy. They weren’t compatible for me and I had to go back and buy the right size . Have an employee double check for you that all the parts are compatible to save you another trip.
  • What size air pump would I need to run a sponge filter like this?…how do I determine what size air pump to run these types of filters?I have a 40g breeder that is lightly planted and only 15 small fish. But I do plant to have a lot more plants and a handful more fish. I have a fluval 306 and 2 HOB filters. But I am wanting to take off my 2 HOB and add a sponge filter.
  • A few questions:Whats the best way to clean build up off filters and aquarium light?What is your favorite air stones and air pump brand?…I’m wanting to produce a lot of small bubbles

    When setting up a sponge filter for a 40g breeder tank, how do I determine what size air pump to run the sponge filter?

  • Newbie question: I just installed a bubbler and did not foresee tank water forced from the bubbler up the air tube before operation. It’s operating fine after I started air flow, but now I’m worried about it happening if there should be a power outage while I’m not home. And would it flow back into the pump and out the vents, ruining the pump and spilling tank water all over the place? Or will it be fine now that the air stone is saturated with water? I plan to clamp the tube if I need to, but really didn’t expect this to be an issue. Thoughts, advice?
  • OK little help needed… your experience, what are the quietest air pumpson the market?
  • I’ve only had one and, due to living in a studio, I was worried about noise. Let me say the tetra Whisper lives up to it’s name.
  • Whisper. I have a couple of Whisper 100 pumps in the same room about 8 feet apart and you would never notice that they are running even if you stood between them.
  • If you oversize the pump for the tank it is loud. I used a 100 gallon pump on a 45 gallon tank and it was loud. Then I used the same pump on a 75 gallon and it is quiter.
  • Sounds crazy, but the $10 top fin small pump is so very quiet. I usw it for my 55, and it works great. Just set it on a rag for extra quietness.

Quietest “Silent” Filter for Aquarium?

Topic: NEED HELP: What’s the Quietest filter on the market for smaller tank setups?? Maybe 10 gallon tanks. The sound of it needs to be silent. For college kids that want to bring their fish to their dorm room!


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Posted by Megan V: I went through the same problem with needing a silent filter. I had really good luck with the Aquaclear filters. They are still very powerful but keep quiet. They may be a little more noisy when you first start them up but it takes a week or two for some algae and muck to grow on all the internals and then they HUSH right up. They are also a top rated filter on the market

  • I have a little sponge filter powered by a quiet little air pump. The only thing you can hear is the bubbles, but it’s not loud at all, and you never have to worry about fixing squeaks or it breaking
  • I have betta duo tanks so they are quiet anyway but I used a sponge filter in my others.
  • I have the aqueon tanks too…when the filters is new it makes a little bit of noise but by day 2 it’s almost silent.
  • Why HASN’T anyone said internal filters?? They are inside the water and almost impossible to hear them. When something is submerged under water it’s very tough to hear it. I would think any HOB filter would be able to be heard because the motor is running on all of them.
  • The motors grow bacteria on them after a couple of weeks and it really helps make the motor more quiet because it’s almost like a slim coat on all the internal components.
  • I have a 2.5 gallon that came with a filter that is pretty much silent. Not sure if that helps!
  • Sponge filters, but changing filters can be problematic because the new filter won’t be cycled, run them tandem for a while.
  • Have you never transferred over media or squeezed out media right at the intake of the new filter before? Instant cycle.
  • Yes but I don’t believe it to be safe enough, my opinion.
  • Why? Its not the filter that holds the bacteria, its the media. So when you move the media from one filter to the next, the cycle is instant. I have transferred all the contents of a 55g into a brand new 220g. Since the media wouldnt fit as they were incompatible filters, i just squeezed out the sponges right at the intake and then added all the fish. Zero issues and I tested every hour for two days.
  • My comment was meant for if he chose to switch to a sponge filter, but otherwise I agree with just transferred media.
  • Ah, that makes sense. Although, to beat a dead horse, you can squeeze out the media inside the tank anywhere and it will work the same. Your water will just be super cloudy with detritus for a few hours is the only drawback.
  • New to this site. Love all of the videos. I have a few questions please..I have a 29 gallon tank..had a aqueon quiet flow 55/75 that I just replaced as I was thinking maybe an IF would be better? I got the National Geo IF40. How long until it gets established? I did transfer some bio filter pellets into it and in the top layer I put 2 small bags of activated carbon. How should I angle the nozzle for outflow? Mid tank? Bottom? Pic and Vid attached. Thanks
  • Green Nuphar japonica…a local aquarium guy’s offering this plant for decent price…Anybody has any experience or views on them in community planted tank? They were looking so damn good in his tank…these are the pics i googled up. Had no camera phone with me back when i visited him. He has some other exotic gorgeous looking plants too…they were quiet expensive….Will visit him again with a camera & post the pics with names here. But i do wanna get this one…tips or suggestions?
  • …finally…my discus was doing good but had a light issue for couple of days now. my laziness got my discus…so, the lights were kind of off, the plants didn’t take in amonia-nitrates, had a bacteria grow, which got the discus..i can see one or two white patches on my discus…looking for a cure. so far, i think it’s Ich…will take pic as soon as i get my dad’s phone & post it here. I really love that fish, & it breaks me to see him all weak & hardly eating & just resting in the corner over the heater….

    Update after 9 hours :
    Umm, guys, i switched on my main lights of the room & discus started swimming around just fine. Couldn’t see any white patches. Switched back to the temporary low light on the tank &…i realised that i got tricked by the lights. Joey seems all good. it’s been over 4 days since the tank’s main lights got messed up. Have to run it on temporary low light i created for the box i keep my plants trimmings in, for now. i guess light does effect fishes. their colours are bit washed up. But when i added some more medium lights, the tank sprang back to healthy life. Discus’s swimming around, roaming around his usual spot in the front at the thermometer (Room’s pretty quiet & dark all the time, just me, sleeping in for the night & hanging around for a while in day time in between jobs)…the water change helped…So…Is it so? can lights effects behaviour of our fishes? i think so…was so upset all sunday because of this but got cheered up by this. Thank you a lot for jumping in with the solutions though. Will keep me ready to roll if i bump into those. Have a sweet & warm week ahead guys…Long live the discus.

Best Food for my Pleco?

Topic: What is the best food for my pleco catfish? I’m new to keeping these catfish. I have them in a community tank with lots of other fish. It seems like when I give them food the other fish eat it all. What is the best food for them?


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Posted by Amanda H: Your pleco is actually nocturnal and that’s why your not seeing it eat with the other fish. When all the other fish are sleeping is when your pleco is going to come out and start feeding aggressively. You should get them some specific food for them. Like some algae wafers. Drop the food in right when the lights go off to ensure they are getting their amount they need. Here is a good brand of food that’s been around for ages.

Omega One Veggie Rounds 8.1oz
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Some people swear by throwing some zucchini in the tank but I don’t really like that idea. You need to usually have a weight that you tie it down with because it wont sink. Then you have to fetch the weight when they are done with it… I would just rather toss some fish food in there and be done. Sinking shrimp pellets work great too! For the most part I rely on my pleco catfish to eat all the left over food that the other fish didn’t eat because thats SUPER important. Uneaten food in your gravel creates nitrates! Here are some of those shrimp pellets.

Omega One Shrimp Pellets 8.25oz
List Price: $9.62
Price: $9.62
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Posted by Harley B: I agree with the idea of making them scavenge on the other fish food that is left over first! I will sort of starve my catfish for a couple days so that I know all the gravel has been skimmed over by them and “cleaned”.. then I give them some of the pellets when the lights get turned off. I used the sinking shrimp pellets too. Shrimp has a lot of protein in it so you know they are getting some good protein levels too. They are omnivores and that’s important to know.

  • Can you put a plecostomus in an aquarium with red belly piranha? I’ve heard that the piranha cant bite through the pleco armor. Is that true? On the other hand I also know that red bellies will attack the eyes of their prey. What do you think? Is the belly of a pleco armored?
  • I think they would be fine.. but that’s just me. Some of the toughest predators just leave catfish alone.. it’s a hit or miss. You just have to watch over them for the first couple days.
  • i have a 3.5 gallon tank. im just setting it up. im getting a betta, but wanted a pleco as well. I understand i will need to upgrade my tank eventually but my question is this: Is a 3.5 gallon tank too small for a catfish and a betta?
  • I have 5 sailfin pleco: 3 are 12″ and the other 2 are 6″. They have lived together in the same 100 gallon tank for the past 3 years with no serious signs of aggression. So long as there are more hiding places than plecos they get along fine.
  • Albinos are smaller than those catfish though…. cause I had an adult one but my friend has a HUGE aquarium and I thought you know what….. gave my catfish and now got a baby albino pleco and I’ve seen other albino pleco and they were smaller than original plecos.
  • I was wondering, can you put a catfish in with a red ear slider? I have a red ear slider and a gourami in a tank together, and I was wondering if a catfish would do alright with the two, its about 8 inches long and is pretty docile. I have already put them together and been monitoring them, but will they do alright in the long run? So far I’ve seen the pleco on the turtles shell, cause he has a little bit of algae growth on it. I think it was just cleaning the algae.

Posted by Natasha B: Hi again! So I’m planning on stocking my 55 gallon in the next few months with a couple of dojo loaches, and 2 fancy goldies! I am worried about algae though because my water contains a lot of phosphates, is it possible to keep a bristlenose pleco with them or would the water be too cold? I’m not going to get a heater as I’ve been told goldfish are coldwater, as with the loaches.

  • Loaches and plecos are not recommended tank makes for goldfish 🙂 I’d say don’t get either and just use some good ole elbow grease for that algea.
  • As far as algae goes, it’s a tasty snack for goldies or can be wiped away – good maintenance and limited lighting periods can help, but at the “worst”, you’re providing a fantastic source of protein for your fatties.
  • Bristlenose plecs and most other plecs and loaches are in fact tropical fish. They do better at temps 25c so in answer to your question No Hun .
  • Dojo loaches need 18-24c water – they’re a cooler water species – however, still incompatible
  • My apologies I missed the Dojo bit 😀 But goldfish should be kept with goldfish.
  • I have an albino bristle nose, that was once came to the 1st knuckle on my thumb. I have been on vacation for 3 weeks but when I left he was the size of my thumb. I have no problem keeping him in my goldies tank.
  • I would recommend that you NEVER use Chinese Algae eaters as well. They do great a youngsters but when they grow, and the do get big, they become nasty and will suck the slime and holes in your fish. The Fancies, fantails , bubble eye’s etc are particularly vulnerable to them. And never never put channel cats in your goldie tanks. They will and I have seen a whole tank with goldfish and no eyes. They suck them out.
  • I have an angel plec in my goldie tank aka hill stream loach as they also temperate he does fine.
  • A lot of people do tend to keep algea eaters with goldies, but there is quite the risk involved! If you don’t feed your algea eaters properly (Mainly plecos) They WILL suck the slime coat off of your goldies, which isnt good at all!
  • This^ and unfortunately, even when well/properly fed. It’s ALWAYS a risk – you just have to decide if it’s one you want to take.

L155 Adonis Pleco Species

L200 pleco

Ka Ying Yang Gotta: love the way that L155 looks!

Sunni Collins: Thank you!

Ka Ying Yang: Can’t believe how long that tail is.

Sunni Collins: I know! I keep wondering if it’s gonna stop growing… Tail is longer than the fish itself, lol luckily I don’t have cichlids or any fin nipping fish

Ka Ying Yang: Oh yes, that tail can be enticing for some to nip on! Do you have any other pleco species, Sunni?

Sunni Collins: 2 large commons 10.5″ & 8″, a 6″ sailfin, the adonis, L200, butterfly, sunshine, bn, and clown pleco…also a whiptail catfish, he’s cool hbout yourself Ka Ying Yang?

Ka Ying Yang: Those commons must produce a LOT of waste, huh? I remember my commons were so bad I had to give them away. My filtration couldn’t hold up. I’m currently raising: common bushynose plecos, 14, 18, 66, 91, 128, 134, 183, 190, 200, 201, 239 and 240. I’m sure I forgot one or maybe a few others! Haha.

Sunni Collins: Nice! That’s a lot!! This tank that I have, it has a 30 gallon sump, and it has grates on the bottom of the tank that suck up a lot of the waste pretty fast… Eventually I might have to get one of those 240 gallon bins for the garage, lol

Ka Ying Yang: Yes, keep upgrading. Luckily there’s always someone local who’s desperate to sell all his/her tanks and supplies!

Sunni Collins: Very true! I’m always looking for deals, just in case I stumble on something, haha

I need help. Please no negativity please.
I have a planted 75g coldwater community tank; and recently I have had a bunch of fish die. I have no idea why!

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: currently 0 (water change yesterday, tank is planted which absorbs nitrates, the nitrates rise very slowly because of this. I have done two test kits with two different tanks so to confirm the test kits actually work which they do. So I don’t think nitrate is the issue)
PH: 7.8
Temp: 21c
Lots of air bubbles: bubble wall and 2 air stones
Running an AC 110 filter

4 baby shubunkins
2 baby koi (used to be 3, one has died 🙁 )
1 baby fantail
1 dwarf pleco
1 weather loach
A school of danios. (Down to 3 from 20)
Previously 3 whiteclouds (they have died).

I realize this is an odd, perhaps inadvisable mixture but I monitor my fish carefully for stress or aggression and have a backup tank if necessary. Nobody is aggressive to each other.
I also know my tank is quite overstocked. But my nitrate levels are exceptionally good and they still have lots of swimming room. When they get too big I will put them in a pond. I use good brand foods too. Omega One brands.

All fish were quarantined and treated with prazi before being put in the community tank.

The story:

I fishless cycled my tank for 2 months. Once cycle was complete I added my shubunkins. Everything was great! Fish swimming around happily. Decided to purchase the fantail and dwarf pleco. Everything good still. Happy fishies. I buy some live plants: jungle val. Washed plants well before putting in. Still good. Parameters good. Everything is well. Get more plants: hygro Thai and ludwigia repens. Rinsed these plants as well. Add the 3 baby koi, weather loach and school of danios after quarantining. Koi show signs of stress but I assumed it was just a new tank causing it. They were acclimated by floating in the tank in bag beforehand And slowly adding water. Other fish are swimming around fine. 3 days goes by. Koi have refused food since arriving. One koi has died, as well as the 3 whiteclouds. Shubunkins and other koi are showing stress by either bottom sitting or just sitting at the surface with nose at the water line. Nitrates are still good but I perform water change anyways just in case. Treat tank with prime as always when adding new water. Getting worried.
Another 3 days and 90% of the Danios are dead. Now the shubunkins won’t eat. I am on red alert now. Something is really wrong!!
My routine is 50% water change once a week. I don’t clean or change filter media. I do vacuum the sand substrate I have. Feed in morning pellets, and evening daphnia along with food for loach and pleco after lights off. Lights are on 6 hours a day for plants. Lightly fertilizing with Excel. Nitrates are still low even with all the fish. Water is crystal clear. Fish were happy up until the newest additions despite parameters being good.

What is going on???? I am truly stumped.
I have tested everything I can possibly test for.

Will Plecos Eat my Pet Snails? Question?

Vong X: No

Emily A: Sweet! Someone told me that if the pleco was big enough it would suck snails out of their shells.

Vong X: Lol!!!!!

Emily A: That’s kinda what I thought. I’m new to plecos though

Vong X: Sorry about laughing… I’ve not heard of plecos eating snails but if that person tells you the name. I’d like to buy a few since my tanks are infested with them.

Emily A: She said any big pleco would do it. I know ciclids can clear up a snail problem in a hurry but didn’t think a pleco would.

Emily A: I have big snails that I don’t want eaten though

Chris G: Clown loach are best for eating snails

Matt M: Just a personal experience for me, but my colony of L14’s actually cleaned all the snails out of their tank. Don’t know why, but I was always sucking a ton of empty shells out of there. Till they were non existent.

Matt T: My albino bristle nose ate my apple snails!

Dean R: Common places are known to turn omnivorous if they run out of there food.

Christopher W: So here Emily is getting laughed at for a good question, and it turns out the person laughing IS WRONG. My mom always taught me to keep my mouth shut if I didn’t have anything nice to say like “laughing out loud aka LOL!!!” The know it all is wrong I guess in this instance. Quite funny how it all works out in the end.

I think the key here to keep the plecos from getting hungry enough to want to eat the snails. I have seen plecos do some wicked stuff to fish when they aren’t getting enough food. These catifsh eat a lot more food then what we would ever think too. I’m afraid to keep my plecos belly full because he almost a foot long and I feat how large he might actually get and what tank I will have to upgrade to.. I already have him in a 55 gallon and it seems to be getting too large very fast.

Mario: Depeding on what l number you have there are 3 different types so trying to breed these you need to make sure that you have the correct species and also im pretty sure noones bred them in captivity yet good luck.


Related Thread:

Topic: Looking for a Long fin blue eyed yellow pleco. I think they’re commonly called Lemondrops? Anybody have one for sale and willing to ship?

Jessica G: They’re called Leucistic bristlenose plecos, I found out finally. (Makes complete sense) Found someone who has a few left, so will hopefully be getting one come the end of march.

Jeff C: if you don’t mind me asking do you know if they have any left n price n location

Christopher W: Can’t say I have ever heard of those.. but it would be cool to see a picture and actually visualize what this fish is none of us have ever seen. I really like learning about new species of catfish I have no idea that exist.

“Common Pleco” Species – Catfish Species Guide

The usual bottom feeder catfish that most pet stores carry is referred to as the common Pleco. It’s somewhat of a vague term to use just because it usually references to numerous species of plecos. The most common types are the Sailfin Pleco, Bristlenose Pleco, Amazon Sailfin Pleco, and the general Suckermouth Pleco.

fish common pleco

They are all so closely related that it doesn’t really even matter what species you get because taking care of each will be the same. Let’s jump into the facts regarding how to care for these awesome catfish.

Aquarium Tank Size

Almost all beginners have no idea that these catfish can commonly grow up to 15 inches long and up. Somewhat of a scary topic… but it’s the brutal truth. These cute little catfish are sold at around 3 inches long and commonly placed into 20 gallon aquariums. A fish that grows up to a food long will need a tank size of 100 gallons (rough estimate). The rule of thumb for aquarium fish is 1 inch of fish needs 10 gallons of water.

Granted, it takes the fish years to grow that long but just a heads up on possible tank upgrades you might need. Some aquarium owners just sell the fish when they outgrow their tanks. Pet stores can sell larger fish for a higher price so they will sometimes buy the fish right from you. I’m not trying to scare you but instead just properly educate. This video is a great guide if you enjoy learning from videos more than articles.

Growth Size, Full Size?

Like I already mentioned, Plecostomus catfish can grow up to 2 feet long. That’s 24 inches folks! Crazy large. These catfish will grow large in small habitats too. The size of their habitat does not stunt their growth.

Feeding Plecos

pleco bristlenoseThese fish eat both sides of the food chain. They are omnivores and mostly love algae but will also take advantage of a meal indulged in meaty food. You will commonly see them eating dead fish on the bottom of your tank. Great scavengers at that!

Feed them algae tablets right before your aquarium lights go off. This helps to rid other fish of stealing these algae tablets and eating them. Because remember the the tablets need to fall all the way to the bottom in order for the bottom feeder catfish to eat them. Other fish love to steal them when possible.

Lifespan and How Old?

Did you know these fish are almost prehistoric? Ok.. I made that up but don’t they sort of seem like it? These fish live up to 20-30 years long! I mean.. WOW! That just adds to the value of why I am in love with these awesome creatures.

Habitat Setup for Aquarium

It is said that Plecos need wood in their habitat to live healthy lifestyle. I have owned dozens of tanks without any type of wood successfully with Plecos. Just to be safe though, you can add some wood to their habitat. The most important aspect for their habitat is hiding places. Make sure that when you common Plecostomus goes to run and hide.. that it has plenty of places to go to. I use black pipes and other decor that the bottom feeders love hiding in.

Live Plants Taste Good!

Does it seem odd that a strong algae eater would eat your live plants…? Nope. So word to the wise, these fish love to eat live plants. Sturdy and very strong plants may survive but your just tempting fate trying to grow tasty plants around a plant eater.

Gravel Versus No Gravel

Bare bottom tanks work with Pleco catfish just fine but I have found that they appreciate a tank with a substrate much more. Because they use their sucker to slowly move around and search for food in crevices, gravel just makes for a better setup. You can ideally use any substrate with these fish though.

Water Temperature

Most fish aquariums are “tropical setups” in the water temperatures of 72-84 F range. Plecos will do just fine I’m that and even lower temps. Even down in the mid 60 degrees Fahrenheit. A pretty adaptable fish when it comes to water temps really. Maybe that’s why they are multiplying in huge numbers down south haha!

Have Any Questions or Comments?

Posted by Kelly Niuy:
Can a person keep Plecos together in the same tank? Or what catfish tank mates can live beside them?

Reply from Admin Chris:
It is said that it’s fine to keep juvenile Plecos together in the same tank but having larger ones together is not a good idea because their aggression levels are higher. Even though these fish seem to themselves.. when you add another of the same species you will quickly learn their real aggression levels. Hope that helps.

Posted by Sarah N:
My daughter has a 10 gallon aquarium and we have a Plecostomus and some other fish. Is this a terrible idea and what happens when the tank is too small for fish?

Reply from Admin Chris:
To be completely honest.. ten gallon aquariums are not good for pet fish this size. There only a handful of species that do well in that small of a tank. Catfish are not one of them. This happens all the time and we get this question a lot. All I can say is I urge you to get your child a bigger tank and maybe indulge in the awesome hobby of fish keeping. A 30 gallon tank would be a great start.

My L134 Leopard Frog Pleco Info

Topic: Here is my L134 Leopard Frog Pleco. He is my personal favorite. (Image posted below)

Nate Yang: Beautiful! How big do they get?

Ka Ying Yang: From what I’ve seen and read, 4.5 inches should be the max! Perfect size if you ask me!

Jeff Curtis Jr: I’ve got a buddy that has a wild proven breeding group of them n currently I’m growing out 6 juvies

Ka Ying Yang: Jeff, how many does he have in his breeding group? And what’s the male to female ratio? J/w cause I’m always collecting information about these guys.

L134 Pleco

Jeff Curtis Jr: Think it’s two pairs they are around 5 years old or so

Matt Mitchell: Yep and just like rabbits. funny thing is guy I got them from had them for 5 years with no luck. They eat food like crazy too.

Ka Ying Yang: I’ve heard plenty of stories from people with varying luck. Some like you said are like rabbits, others just never get going!

Matt Mitchell: me too. Like the guy who I got them from. 5 years is a long time to wait for a spawn. I had them for 6 months, and fry. Funny how plecos can be so odd.

Ka Ying Yang: You’re obviously doing something right! Hope you come across several more batches!

Matt Mitchell: The alpha male is sitting on eggs about every 3 weeks now.

Matt Mitchell: take the fry and a week later more eggs. I would estimate around 100-120 fry growing out. And they appear to be extremely resilient. No fry deaths that I have seen yet.

Ka Ying Yang: Seriously? Wow!

Ka Ying Yang: Here goes another one guarding his cave closely.

leapord frog pleco

More Related Topics:

Alee Yang Posted:
Greenwater Aquarist Society’s fourth Annual Swap will be held March 23th 2014. The swap will run from 10:00 am until 2:00 pm, doors will open at 8:00 am for vendor set up. Buyers will be allowed in at 10:00 am.

Entry fee is $3.00 for an individual or $5.00 for a family. The swap will be held at Alsip Park District’s Apollo Park facility, 12521 Kostner Ave, Alsip Il, 60803

Puag Yoj Mas: Is there a list of stuff that will be available? ??

Ianx Xiong: thats the same day as milwaukee fish auction bro

Alee Yang: thats fine..Ill miss an auction for a swap anyday

Ianx Xiong: lol yup

Petey Bland: Where is the Milwaukee fish auction going 2 be at?

Ianx Xiong: New Berlin

Petey Bland: Ok thanks

Different Plecos in the Same Tank?

Question: Can you keep different pleco species in the same tank? I’ve heard that a lot of them fight with each other.. but then I hear from other people that they do fine together. I need some help from my fellow fish keepers.

Tou Lee Thao Replied: From my experience is no. I used to keep bristle nose w regular pleco and the regular always end up killing the bristle nose. Not sure about other kind

Sebb Thomas Replied: some you can, I keep a collection of L066, L015, L288 and L018 together. One of the main problems is actually making sure they each get their needed amount of the best foods. They tend to eat on their own time at night.. so it makes it difficult to make sure they are eating.

Sebb Thomas Replied: I’m getting some L260 and L134 soon as well, I’ve had these together for a long time and never had a single problem, as long there are adequate caves/hiding spots and bogwood you should be fine

Josh Gutridge Replied: I have 7 different in one tank

Puag Yoj Mas Replied: You can, but you have to make sure they are the same size. Remember big fish would sometime pick on little fish

Sebb Thomas Replied: I wouldn’t ever mix a common with smaller L numbered plecs tbh

Wynn Huynh Replied: I have 5 different ones in one tank.

Norax Bettas Replied: thanks for the info, seems like there just has to be enough caves per pleco

Josh Gutridge Replied: Caves and avoid the commons unless you have a huge tank.

Simon Simmons Replied: I always did they’re territorial fish anyway but it never led to harm

Image of a Rhino Pleco?

Topic: I’ve been searching all over for an image of a Rhino Pleco and can’t find one. I’m really dying to see how bad these things look like. Pleco cats are scary enough the way it is and there happens to be a species called the “Rhino” haha. I am so excited about this and someone really needs to help me out here. Know of any friends that may have one in their tank? I know this is rare but I know they have to be out there. Thanks for the help! Appreciate it.

Posted by Andrew G.
here is the image you have been searching for. I have a friend that knows a friend and I saw this in his tank and he gets lots of exotic fish that most of us would never get to touch but he gets them. This picture was hosted on weeks ago and remembered it was there.
rhino pleco

Reply from Author:
Oh my Gosh that thing is so awesome! I must say that I was expecting more of a scarier version of a pleco but that is pretty scary. Thanks for the share on my topic and glad you answered my question. My obsession is no onto something else.. maybe the scariest catfish I can get my hands on… maybe you have some ideas for me.

Size Tank for Pleco? Aquarium Size

Topic: I have a 20 gallon aquarium that is a ‘high series’ tank. I have 3 molly fish and plan to get a Plecostomus. I’m wondering what size tank a Pleco needs? I know they get pretty big but can I just get one and maybe go with it? I know all of our tanks are crowded more or less so.. would it hurt to give a Pleco a nice home?

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Reply from Steve K:
plecoEveryone puts these fish in small tanks and only the fish suffer. The Pleco can grow to 12 inches long very easily and live 20-30 years. Are you sure you know what your putting inside of your tank. I only advise beginner aquarists to put a Pleco in aquariums 50 gallons or larger. I would say to have your tank crowded like you speak of, you would have a small 30 gallon tank. The 20 gallon aquarium you have isn’t even worth calling a real fish aquarium.

You need to do yourself a favor and go out and buy a 55 gallon tank and go nuts with fish. You can buy one for super cheap and even cheaper if you buy used equipment. Even your mollies are cramped in a 20 gallon tank. If you catch Petco at the right time, they have a deal where 1 gallon of aquarium costs you $1. So a 55 gallon tank would only cost you $55 with tax. Even if you had to hold off on getting a stand and set it on a dresser for now.

But back to the Pleco, they get to be a very large fish and even reach in the 20 inch mark for length. That’s comparable to you as a human living inside of your bath tub… It’s just not right. I personally have a 75 gallon tank and feel like it’s too small. We all want bigger and better stuff haha. Hopefully that helps.

Reply from Kristy F:
You could always buy a juvenile Pleco an put it in your tank while you plan for you upgraded tank. That would make a great reason to make you actually break down and go buy the tank. That’s how I did it and I guilt tripped my husband into needing a much larger tank because my fish were outgrowing their living space.

The juveniles grow more rapidly than what you would ever expect. Mine went from being tiny and the next I knew it.. I needed a new aquarium and was being pushed with time. Don’t let time sneak up on you too fast. Because like he also replied.. the fish is the one that suffers.

Reply from Rachael T:
Worst comes to worst and you can’t afford a new tank and a fish outgrows your tank, what you do is bring it to the fish store and they will take it back and find a home for it. A lot of aquarists love this because they get free fish that are large in size. Otherwise large fish for tanks are somewhat expensive.